CaRMS Interview preparation

Pre-Game: CaRMS Interview Preparation

In CaRMS Guide, Mentorship by Brent Thoma19 Comments

It’s that time of year again. The references are in, the applications are complete, interviews have been accepted, flights are booked and medical students across Canada are preparing themselves for the rigamarole known as CaRMS that will determine where they will be living for the next 2-5 years and what kind of medicine they will be practicing for the rest of their lives. All you can do now is some CaRMS interview preparation.

It’s a bit stressful.

While I believe that the advice contained in this article is broadly applicable to CaRMS, it is derived from my own experiences being interviewed and interviewing for the FRCPC emergency medicine programs in Canada. I was an applicant on the EM interview tour in 2010, interviewed in 2012, and helped to create rank-lists in 2011, 2012, and 2013. As always, please keep in mind that this is my perspective and some people are bound to disagree. Try to get as many perspectives on this as you can so you can develop a well-rounded view.

Onto the advice:

CaRMS Interview Preparation Step 1 – Know your application

Anything that you put on your application is fair game during the interviews, so you better be able to talk about it! In many of the interviews you will have an opportunity to steer the topic towards things that you want to talk about to some degree, but sometimes an interviewer will be very interested in something particular and ask you about it. Know your application and be prepared!

CaRMS Interview Preparation Step 2 – Know yourself

Cheesy? Hell ya. Important? Very. Here are some questions you should have good answers to before your first interview:

Tell me about yourself.

A frequent opening to the interviews, it’s so broad that it can actually be a fairly hard question to answer if you didn’t see it coming. Recognize that it is your opportunity to play some role in directing where the interview will go because you’re likely to have follow-up questions on the things that you bring up. It’s also an easy question to ramble on about, so be succinct. Please don’t tell us your entire life story! I think an “elevator speech” (google it) would be appropriate.

What are your strengths and weaknesses?

For real. Don’t do that thing where you name a weakness but then talk about how it’s really a strength (e.g. – sometimes I take on too much, but look at my application, aren’t I a total rockstar?) shows a lack of insight. We all have weaknesses, if you don’t know what yours are you need to work on that. Another faux pas in my opinion is opening with “My friends tell me…” Discuss this question with your BFF if you like, but you should not need their advice to know when you struggle. Similarly, be proud to tell us what you’re good at – we’re giving you the opportunity!

Why do you want to be an emergency doctor?

This is another question that you should expect and be able to crush. Make sure that you can respond to it eloquently because you’ll likely be asked it a lot. Consider what about your personality and lifestyle make you a good fit for EM and have a good understanding of the drawbacks of the specialty.

What would you want to subspecialize in? (phrased in various more elegant ways)

Most FRCPC-EM programs allow their residents to combine elective time with time for “developing a sub-specialty interest in EM” so this is something you will be asked about. I don’t think you need to know for sure, but you should certainly know what areas interest you. Are you big into research? Education? Toxicology? Hyperbaric medicine? Tropical medicine? Simulation? Public Health? Geriatrics? Sports med? Trauma? Pediatrics? Ultrasound? Quality improvement? Pre-hospital medicine? Cruise ship medicine? Administration? Business? Critical care? Disaster medicine? Palliative care? And, more importantly, why? If you would like to read more about this I’d recommend checking out the article that we recently published in CJEM on enhanced training [1]. Programs are looking for residents that will ultimately take on a leadership role in some aspect of our specialty. There’s lots to choose from and no one is going to hold you to it, but do think about it ahead of time. You can score some bonus points if you happen to know which of the programs that you are applying to have strengths align with this sub-specialty interest.

Tell me about a time when…

These are questions that the interviewers seemed to love when I went through my CaRMS questions. Known as “behavioral-based interviewing,” these questions attempt to assess you for certain characteristics by asking you about a time when you displayed it. You then share the story of how you demonstrated leadership, empathy, etc. The best way to prep for these questions is to come up with a lot of stories from your training that could be applied to demonstrate various traits. If you kept a journal during clerkship now would be a great time to bust it out! My University’s career center has produced a guide that goes over prepping for this type of interview question that is freely available here. Take a look through it; it’s a good guide for prepping for interviews in general.

CaRMS Interview Preparation Step 3 – Know your programs

All of the emergency medicine programs in the country are good, but they offer very different things. For example, programs may be new or old, small or large, in a big city or a smaller city, do lots of simulation or little, teach ultrasound early or late, have different curricula, and conduct varying amounts of research in dramatically different areas. More likely, some of those characteristics are positives for you and others are negatives. Regardless, you should be able to say why you’d be excited to move to each city and program. Learn about them so you can have educated conversations about them.

How should you go about this? The first and easiest way is to check out the websites. We all have them and they should have a lot of good information describing what we’re all about. If you know any medical students or residents from a school they’re also a good resource for this information. Some students email residents and that’s a strategy that I’m lukewarm about. If you have a specific question that really interests you, by all means ask them. However, asking a resident to complete an obviously generic survey is more likely to reflect negatively on you than positively. Regardless, I think it should be your goal to know enough about each program that you interview at to be able to have a conversation with one of the staff or residents and ask some educated questions about it. We’re proud of our programs and are pumped to talk about them!

CaRMS Interview Preparation Step 4 – Know your flights/accommodations

This is complicated! If you’ve been lucky enough to snag >6 interviews you’re going to be all over the map. This is even worse if you’ve applied to any other specialties and have to fit their interviews in with all of your spare time.

Fortunately, the EM interviews are rationally arranged from East to West or West to East depending on the year. Every program owns one day in the 3 week period that is exclusively theirs for the purpose of EM interviews. Most programs have a second day, but they generally aren’t allowed to offer interviews to people being interviewed by the program that owns that date. This makes it possible for you to attend every single EM interview if you were lucky enough to snag invites to all of them (usually a few people each year pull this off). However, that will hurt. And its also crazy expensive. Save yourself some extra stress en-route (the interviews are enough!) and get your travel and hotel plans relatively sorted out before you start.

Travel tips:

It is really difficult and crazy stressful to get all of your flights/accommodations arranged. Completing the CaRMS tour during our frigid, snowstorm-filled January weather seems to be some sort of perverse Canadian MD right of passage. Occasionally, you’re going to have to take a hit and book a flight/room that’s more expensive than you wanted to. The important thing is to start piece by piece as soon as you can. Most schools get their interview invites in by around Christmas, but its hard to make solid plans until you have your interview/tour times. As soon as you do you should be booking.

As you make your plans, do your best to make the socials whenever you can. They are important, especially at the smaller programs, so try to arrange your travel to allow for that. Of course, sometimes the only way for that to happen is to arrange teleportation. We know that’s not possible (although we, too, wish it was) and empathize with you, but still think that you being at our social is more important than you catching the end of that other school’s tour. When possible, I think the best way to combat this is getting a morning tour and an early afternoon interview so that you can be off to the airport as soon as it is over.

Money-saving Tips:

-The CFMS used to have a small WestJet discount. I’m not sure if they still do, but every little bit counts!
-Air Canada has had flight passes that have worked well for some in the past. Check out if they would work for your interviews schedule.
-Find a travel buddy – hopefully there’s someone you know with a schedule similar to yours that you can bunk and share taxis with.
-hotwire.com has been popular in previous years for booking cheaper accommodations.
-Especially in Ontario, there are lots of people driving from interview to interview. If they’re from Ontario, they’re generally driving. Consider holding off on booking buses/trains and instead offering some cash to the friendly Ontario applicants. They’re generally happy to have the company (and cash) and its much easier and cheaper for you. If it falls through, last minute trains/buses are not hard to book. Of course, if you know you’ll be OCD about how you’re going to get everywhere figure it out beforehand. Hopefully there won’t be one of those dreaded Ontario snowstorms this year…

Conclusion

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References

  1. Thoma B, Mohindra R, Woods RA. Enhanced training in emergency medicine: the search and application process. CJEM. 2015; 17(5): 565-8. PMID: 26013910

Editor’s note: This article was originally published on January 13, 2013 on BoringEM. It was revised and republished on CanadiEM on January 7, 2015.

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+ Brent Thoma is a medical educator, blogging geek, and emergency physician who works at the University of Saskatchewan College of Medicine. He founded BoringEM and is a senior editor / tech support / jack-of-all trades at CanadiEM.
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  • DK

    Program-sanctioned dodgeball?!?!?!

    Who would choose anything else!!!

  • Wow, that is a ton of great info. Thanks for the post!

  • chrislipp

    Thanks Brent for such a helpful posting as I prepare for my interviews. A+

    • Welcome! Good luck with CaRMS and please do share with your classmates 🙂

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  • Corey V

    so good – came across this at the right time. Thanks for the input – cheers!

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  • Nina Nguyen

    The CFMS doesn’t have WestJet discounts anymore, but the CMA offers Porter and ViaRail discounts! Also heard that the OMA offer Westjet and Porter discounts for Ontario’s medstudents.

    • Brent Thoma

      Thanks for the update, Nina!

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  • Suneel Upadhye

    Having been involved almost 20 years in interviewing/accepting potential EM candidates as an EM faculty, let me add the following:
    1) Be different – after interviewing 10-20 candidates per day, they all blend together (motivated, team-playing, strong leaders, ski patrol/triathletes all cut from the same cookie cutter…You need to be memorable at end of day when we’re determining your fates…
    2) Don’t assume I’ve read your resume/submission materials – Our program separates file reviewers and interviewers, so you are a blank slate to me when I interview you. Have your talking points ready…if you don’t have Step 2 above stone cold ready, you blew it. Don’t make me pull the info out of you…
    3) Know your profession – know the challenges of your career choice (e.g. EM, surgery, etc.), job markets, etc., and how you strategically plan to integrate…have this ready. And it should be coherent…
    4) Be prepared to control up to 90-95% of the speaking agenda with your talking points. If you don’t, I’ll control the agenda and go in directions you may not like or be prepared for…I’ll do it eventually anyway, but you may as well get out everything you want under your control, before I take it from you…
    5) If you catch an unlucky break and you have interview slots after lunch or later in the day, you need to bring a better game, as you’re being compared to many other before you, so this is potentially harder. Not insurmountable, though, so again, put your best game forward. Enthusiasm/energy will help keep me engaged after a long day of interviewing…

    Hope this helps…interviewing is an art, but takes a lot of preparation. We can tell in <30sec who's prepared and who's not…

    Good luck all…

    S. Upadhye, MD MSc FRCPC
    Associate Clin Prof, Emergency Medicine
    McMaster University

    • Brent Thoma

      Awesome – thanks for the great insights, Suneel!!

      • Suneel Upadhye

        My pleasure…good to see students prepared for a potentially life-changing session, and nothing worse than pulling teeth from someone who’s not prepared…

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